Liv Moods breaks down the Nuggets’ loss to the Thunder from inside Ball Arena, unpacking the fallout from foul-baiting discourse, uneven officiating, and a Denver roster still missing key starters. From Nikola Jokic’s return to ongoing injury concerns, lineup chemistry, and why Shai Gilgeous-Alexander has become one of the most polarizing stars in the NBA, this episode dives into what actually mattered — and what Nuggets fans should really take away from the loss.
Welcome back to MoodSwings presented by Landmark Lincoln…your new favorite sports therapy show.
Liv breaks down the Denver Nuggets’ loss to the OKC Thunder from inside Ball Arena, with Nikola Jokic returning from injury and the Nuggets still shorthanded. From rotating starting lineups and postseason chemistry concerns to perimeter defense issues, officiating frustrations, and the growing league-wide foul-baiting epidemic, nothing is off limits.
This episode dives into:
Jokic’s return and what it means moving forward
Life without Aaron Gordon (and why resting him may be the right move)
The OKC discourse and why they don’t need a “victim narrative”
SGA’s greatness vs. the foul-baiting problem across the NBA
Trade deadline pressure, the luxury tax, and why Peyton Watson is untouchable
Giannis trade rumors and front office realities
Jamal Murray finally earning his All-Star nod
Why All-Star snubs are inevitable (and how the system should change)
All that, plus what Nuggets fans should take away from this loss as the postseason picture starts to take shape.
More NBA and Nuggets coverage coming Friday.
Much love — Go Nuggets 💙💛
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Liv Moods
Welcome into another episode of Mood Swings with Liv moods I'm Liv moods and as always, this is presented.
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Speaker 2
By Landmark Lincoln. Shout out to our friends over at Landmark Lincoln.
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Liv Moods
Make sure you head to their location off of Bellevue.
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Speaker 2
And Broadway to figure out why.
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Liv Moods
They have been the.
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Speaker 2
Number one Lincoln dealer in Colorado for as.
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Liv Moods
Long as they have.
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Speaker 2
I say it every.
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Liv Moods
Show, but I am the.
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Speaker 2
Proud new owner of a.
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Liv Moods
2025 Lincoln Nautilus and could not.
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Speaker 2
Love my car more.
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Liv Moods
So make sure you go check them out to see all that they have.
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Speaker 2
To offer you.
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Liv Moods
Enough about vehicles. Let's get into the show.
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Liv Moods
We are coming off of a, you know.
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Speaker 2
Unfortunate turn of.
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Liv Moods
Events. I decided to take myself.
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Speaker 2
Over to Ball Arena last night for the.
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Liv Moods
OKC.
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Speaker 2
Thunder versus the Denver.
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Liv Moods
Nuggets game. Obviously you guys know that just a few days ago, Nikola Jokic.
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Speaker 2
Made his return after a.
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Liv Moods
Left hyperextension in his knee that he.
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Speaker 2
Suffered December 29th.
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Liv Moods
We didn't know how long he was going to be out.
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Speaker 2
Honestly when he first went down I was pretty concerned about.
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Liv Moods
The.
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Speaker 2
Like severity of the injury itself.
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Liv Moods
Wasn't an ACL, I wasn't.
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Speaker 2
Sure. It didn't.
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Liv Moods
Look good. So obviously everybody in Nuggets nation was feeling a little squeamish, a little.
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Speaker 2
Uncomfortable waiting for the news. Thankfully just a hyperextension.
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Liv Moods
And I think Nikola.
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Speaker 2
Jokic returned a little bit sooner than everybody.
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Liv Moods
Had anticipated. So that was obviously a.
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Speaker 2
Very.
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Liv Moods
Exciting thing. You have him back and.
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Speaker 2
You weren't really.
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Liv Moods
I can't.
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Speaker 2
Speak for everyone, actually.
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Liv Moods
But I'll speak for myself. I wasn't.
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Speaker 2
Entirely sure what.
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Liv Moods
To expect, going into this game, knowing.
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Speaker 2
That you were still without Aaron Gordon, you were still.
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Liv Moods
Without CB, you were still without Cam Johnson. And so this this.
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Speaker 2
Rotation.
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Liv Moods
It seems, just keeps evolving and changing. You get Jokic back in the mix. You don't have Valanciunas.
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Speaker 2
As the starter anymore.
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Liv Moods
And by the way big Val when he's in there is definitely making those non Jokic minutes these days. Feel a little.
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Speaker 2
Bit more bearable. And a little bit more comfortable.
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Liv Moods
But still this Denver Nuggets team. And maybe this is one of my.
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Speaker 2
Largest fears.
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Liv Moods
If you will when I look at this Denver Nuggets team the.
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Speaker 2
Different.
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Liv Moods
Like the amount of.
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Speaker 2
Different starting.
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Liv Moods
Lineups that this nuggets team will.
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Speaker 2
Unfortunately.
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Liv Moods
Have to have.
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Speaker 2
Throughout this.
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Liv Moods
Season just due.
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Speaker 2
To an injured roster.
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Liv Moods
Is a good thing in some ways.
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Speaker 2
Right?
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Liv Moods
You're getting.
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Speaker 2
Superstar moments from a guy like peewee that otherwise wouldn't.
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Liv Moods
Have them. You're getting to see what depth you added in the off season and how valuable that's going to be this season.
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Speaker 2
But you're also getting different forms and variations.
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Liv Moods
Of a starting lineup, which doesn't seem like a big deal. But in such a star.
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Speaker 2
Driven league, you're.
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Liv Moods
Getting.
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Speaker 2
Different.
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Liv Moods
Types of.
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Speaker 2
Chemistry, different versions.
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Liv Moods
Of of what this offense looks like. How is the defense work?
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Speaker 2
There's a.
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Liv Moods
System to.
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Speaker 2
A starting five, right?
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Liv Moods
It's not just about talent always. And it's funny because I made that video.
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Speaker 2
The other day where I.
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Liv Moods
Talked about how typically.
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Speaker 2
A starting five is your five.
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Liv Moods
Best guys, but there.
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Speaker 2
Is a world as well where there's some strategy.
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Liv Moods
Behind.
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Speaker 2
A starting lineup.
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Liv Moods
It's not always going to be. And that's why I said, in a.
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Speaker 2
Perfect world, it's your five best.
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Liv Moods
Guys, but it's not.
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Speaker 2
A perfect world.
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Liv Moods
And a lot of.
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Speaker 2
Times there has to be a strategy there, because there's also certain roles.
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Liv Moods
That you need each.
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Speaker 2
Starting five member to.
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Liv Moods
Have.
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Speaker 2
So what we're got.
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Liv Moods
What's going on with this Denver Nuggets.
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Speaker 2
Team right now.
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Liv Moods
Is because you have such.
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Speaker 2
An injured roster.
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Liv Moods
You've got different guys.
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Speaker 2
Playing different roles.
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Liv Moods
To kind of fill in the gaps.
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Speaker 2
For what's.
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Liv Moods
Missing in the what otherwise would be.
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Speaker 2
Healthy starting five.
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Liv Moods
Lineup. When you miss CB and you miss AG and you miss Cam Johnson, there's some defensive.
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Speaker 2
Stuff that you're missing.
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Liv Moods
That you've got to find elsewhere. So now you've got guys stepping.
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Speaker 2
Into different roles, having.
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Liv Moods
To focus.
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Speaker 2
On different things.
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Liv Moods
And while.
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Speaker 2
That's a really positive.
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Liv Moods
Thing and that's why I say there's some good and bad.
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Speaker 2
Here.
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Liv Moods
Because while.
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Speaker 2
That's a really.
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Liv Moods
Positive thing, the only.
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Speaker 2
Thing I worry about.
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Liv Moods
Is when the end of the season is.
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Speaker 2
Here.
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Liv Moods
And hopefully the Denver Nuggets team makes a deep postseason push that starting five, who knows what they look like. It could be changing, changing changing changing changing. And I kind of hope that it is until the postseason because there's guys like Aaron Gordon that I actually hope we rest the majority.
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Speaker 2
Of the regular season.
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Liv Moods
I worry about a guy like AG. Why not? Because he can't handle it. Not because he doesn't.
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Speaker 2
Treat his.
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Liv Moods
Offseason exactly how he should. Not because he's not in shape, but because he has such an explosive game and a.
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Speaker 2
Hamstring injury is.
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Liv Moods
One that.
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Speaker 2
Can linger and.
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Liv Moods
Last.
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Speaker 2
For forever. I'm no Aaron Gordon, but when I.
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Liv Moods
Tweak my hamstring at a lifetime fitness, guess what?
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Speaker 2
I feel it for years. Every time the temperature.
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Liv Moods
Changes and it.
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Speaker 2
Gets colder outside, all of a.
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Liv Moods
Sudden my.
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Speaker 2
Hammy hurts.
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Liv Moods
Again. I'm saying that because biologically.
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Speaker 2
It is a very difficult injury.
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Liv Moods
Not because I think I'm Aaron Gordon.
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Speaker 2
Let's make that very clear. But biologically it's a very, very difficult injury.
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Liv Moods
Because of the way in which.
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Speaker 2
That it can linger and.
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Liv Moods
Just last.
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Speaker 2
Forever. It's a very nagging injury. So you're going to get different versions of the starting.
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Liv Moods
Lineup.
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Speaker 2
Throughout the entire regular season.
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Liv Moods
And I hope you do, because I want to keep those.
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Speaker 2
Really valuable core.
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Liv Moods
Guys as healthy as possible.
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Speaker 2
For the.
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Liv Moods
Post season. So the only thing.
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Speaker 2
I worry about.
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Liv Moods
Is that once you get to the postseason, what's the.
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Speaker 2
Chemistry.
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Liv Moods
Going to look like with that.
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Speaker 2
Starting.
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Liv Moods
Five?
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Speaker 2
Let's say in a perfect world.
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Liv Moods
You get AG back and healthy, fully back and fully healthy.
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Speaker 2
For.
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Liv Moods
The postseason. But by that time, the starting five has involved Peyton.
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Speaker 2
Watson more than it's involved Aaron Gordon.
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Liv Moods
Now there's just some adjustments that need to be made. And so the.
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Speaker 2
Only thing I worry about.
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Liv Moods
Is how in sync is the starting five going to be come postseason, when we've had so.
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Speaker 2
Many different variations of the starting five throughout the season?
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Liv Moods
Again, so many positive things come with that.
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Speaker 2
Having different variations. But there is a world where.
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Liv Moods
How much time are we going to be able to get.
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Speaker 2
Our core guys.
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Liv Moods
In sync ahead of the postseason? We still got time, but like I said, hamstring.
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Speaker 2
Injury.
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Liv Moods
AG out.
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Speaker 2
Another 4 to 6.
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Liv Moods
Weeks. That's a long time. There's a lot of games that pass.
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Speaker 2
And for example, one.
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Liv Moods
Of which was just recently this OKC game, you're still missing three valuable guys. And this is a game that kind of sets the tone right. This is a.
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Speaker 2
Team that you're probably going to.
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Liv Moods
Have to see again. And maybe potentially in a seven.
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Speaker 2
Game series where it's do or die. So really quickly.
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Liv Moods
I want to talk about those three main guys going out. I cannot believe the.
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Speaker 2
Discourse that was happening during this.
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Liv Moods
OKC Denver game. Here's the deal. I was at the game right? So I'm not hearing the commentators talking. And honestly kind of nice, right. Because sometimes you get that bias type.
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Speaker 2
Reporting and it drives you.
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Liv Moods
Insane. But I was seeing on my timeline.
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Speaker 2
As I'm scrolling throughout the.
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Liv Moods
Game.
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Speaker 2
There were some very, very.
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Liv Moods
Unhappy folks when it came to this, commentating.
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Speaker 2
On the Denver Nuggets.
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Liv Moods
Side of things, because all that the commentators could do was talk about the valuable.
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Speaker 2
Players.
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Liv Moods
That OKC was missing and how different this game would look if OKC had.
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Speaker 2
A healthy roster.
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Liv Moods
Oh my god, like, wait a minute. I just.
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Speaker 2
Want to make it very clear because I even.
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Liv Moods
Saw a tweet from Skip Bayless, who was like, imagine how bad this game would have gone if if OKC was healthy.
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Speaker 2
Are we forgetting.
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Liv Moods
That the Denver Nuggets have been out.
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Speaker 2
Three starters and are still out three starters?
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Liv Moods
And I actually I was I was talking about this on my social media and some guy I'm not even going to give him the satisfaction of saying his name because again, my.
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Speaker 2
Mother raised.
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Liv Moods
Me too.
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Speaker 2
You know, she raised me.
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Liv Moods
Understanding that you don't argue is stupid.
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Speaker 2
And what this person said, unfortunately, there's no.
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Liv Moods
Other way to describe it but stupid, he said.
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Speaker 2
Christian Brown as.
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Liv Moods
A key.
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Speaker 2
Player because I.
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Liv Moods
Made mention.
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Speaker 2
Let's not forget.
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Liv Moods
That the Denver.
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Speaker 2
Nuggets were out three of their key players as.
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Liv Moods
Well, like Skip.
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Speaker 2
If you're going to.
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Liv Moods
Call it on one side, you got to call.
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Speaker 2
It on the other.
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Liv Moods
And somebody then commented and said so it was even I'm like, yes, but don't make it sound like OKC was in this impossible position and.
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Speaker 2
Pulled through and found.
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Liv Moods
A way like, oh my God. By the way, I.
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Speaker 2
Hate to break the news.
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Liv Moods
To you. OKC is not a victim. They are not victims at all.
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Speaker 2
They're one of.
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Liv Moods
The best basketball teams in the NBA. They are not victims. You don't need to help them with.
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Speaker 2
That right.
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Liv Moods
Okay. We don't need to help them with that. So the fact that Skip Bayless is just one of many people that's saying, oh my gosh, they found a way despite being out three guys. They found a way. What do you mean they found a way. The Denver Nuggets also didn't.
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Speaker 2
Have three key players. So I.
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Liv Moods
Said that and this person on on on my social media.
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Speaker 2
Says Christian Brown as a.
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Liv Moods
Key.
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Speaker 2
Player is.
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Liv Moods
An all time cope. What the.
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Speaker 2
Hell are you talking.
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Liv Moods
About?
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Speaker 2
Christian Brown is a starter for the Denver Nuggets.
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Liv Moods
He was one of the most lethal guys in transition last season. What are you talking about? He's not a key player.
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Speaker 2
Are you out of your mind?
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Liv Moods
So again you don't argue is stupid.
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Speaker 2
I'm not going to argue with you about it.
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Liv Moods
But this is just another example. A win is a win is a win you guys OKC outplayed the.
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Speaker 2
Denver Nuggets for four quarters.
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Liv Moods
Leave it at that. But don't then double.
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Speaker 2
Triple quadruple.
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Liv Moods
Down. Once the game is all said and done and be like gosh, I just can't believe OKC found a way to win with three of their best guys out. Stop it. What is this new.
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Speaker 2
Thing we're doing.
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Liv Moods
Making OKC the victim? They are not.
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Speaker 2
They never have.
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Liv Moods
Been and.
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Speaker 2
They never will.
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Liv Moods
Be okay. They won the.
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Speaker 2
Game fair and square.
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Liv Moods
Let me talk a little bit about that game because I was there. OKC doesn't miss folks. And the defense that they play is exceptional.
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Speaker 2
I'm going to give credit where it's due.
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Liv Moods
I'm not the biggest fan of OKC.
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Speaker 2
For for obvious reasons.
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Liv Moods
As a Denver Nuggets fan. Chet Holmgren is playing fantastic defense. They have a fantastic defense. And I'm going to get to the Denver Nuggets. And what I thought they did well in just a second, but OKC.
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Speaker 2
Really.
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Liv Moods
Couldn't miss at all. I'm.
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Speaker 2
Sorry.
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Liv Moods
But I want to know. And I want to know quickly what is it about. And I do know what it is I unfortunately.
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Speaker 2
I know what it is right. I know that our perimeter.
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Liv Moods
Defense is lacking.
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Speaker 2
And clearly that.
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Liv Moods
Was what was on full display to me last night at that game because I. And then I flashed myself. I'm like, how do we fix it? Well, we play the Clippers last season.
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Speaker 2
And Norman Powell.
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Liv Moods
Is you know.
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Speaker 2
Steph Curry.
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Liv Moods
We play OKC last night in case. And Wallace is Steph Curry. You know there's there's only so many times you can say that to the opposing team and be like dang what what what what.
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Speaker 2
Was in your water this morning.
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Liv Moods
What kind of magic did you have. But really I think it's.
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Speaker 2
More of a reflection of.
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Liv Moods
Maybe us needing to tighten.
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Speaker 2
Up that perimeter defense.
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Liv Moods
Just a smidge. Because here's the deal. We live in an era in the NBA.
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Speaker 2
Right now where teams.
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Liv Moods
Are living and dying.
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Speaker 2
By the three.
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Liv Moods
And when you live and die by the three, it's a dangerous game you can play because when you don't hit.
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Speaker 2
Your threes, it can be problematic. But when you're.
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Liv Moods
OKC and you just don't miss living and dying by the.
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Speaker 2
Three is your.
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Liv Moods
Weapon.
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Speaker 2
Especially when you're up against a Denver team.
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Liv Moods
That.
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Speaker 2
For.
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Liv Moods
Some time.
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Speaker 2
Now has struggled with perimeter defense.
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Liv Moods
Now, I do want to say this.
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Speaker 2
About what Denver did.
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Liv Moods
Well.
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Speaker 2
One, they were also.
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Liv Moods
Again, I know people are forgetting this.
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Speaker 2
They were also out three very key players in that game.
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Liv Moods
I felt like the defensive intensity and hustle that they played with was exceptional.
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Speaker 2
There were moments where they were really playing hard, playing.
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Liv Moods
Tough, and that's not something that you often see with.
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Speaker 2
This Denver Nuggets.
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Liv Moods
Team. I think some of that was.
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Speaker 2
Coming from frustration.
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Liv Moods
I could see moments where Nikola Jokic was.
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Speaker 2
Getting frustrated with.
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Liv Moods
The officiating. I know.
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Speaker 2
Denver fans were getting a little frustrated that I was.
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Liv Moods
Actually sitting next to an OKC fan.
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Speaker 2
And they were awesome. Very bearable, very cool OKC fan.
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Liv Moods
I will say, but even they sometimes they were like, yeah, the officials. And here's what I'm going to say. I'll never blame a game on on officials because at this point we just have to get.
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Speaker 2
Familiar with the fact that they're not going to be great.
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Liv Moods
90% of the time. The NBA officials are not going to.
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Speaker 2
Get it right. They're just.
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Liv Moods
Not okay. And it is what it is. It's kind of the.
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Speaker 2
Nature of the.
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Liv Moods
Game. But what I will say is this was the least of sagas, foul baiting that I've ever seen, which I was.
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Speaker 2
Pleasantly surprised by and very.
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Liv Moods
Happy with. He wasn't doing it as much as he normally does. The to me, the officiating just wasn't the same on both sides. That's it.
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Speaker 2
I'm not saying that there were calls that were just like egregious.
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Liv Moods
Oh my gosh, how could you let that happen? You know, there was just one team on the floor that was able to get away with a little bit more pushy shove. And the other one was not. That does.
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Speaker 2
Make it hard to.
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Liv Moods
Play defense. And I.
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Speaker 2
Felt very, very proud of the Denver Nuggets for despite.
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Liv Moods
How difficult it is to defend OKC, because whether.
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Speaker 2
Or not you're.
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Liv Moods
In OKC fan or you hate them.
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Speaker 2
Or whatever.
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Liv Moods
It's undeniable that it is difficult to defend OKC. It is. And that leads me to a conversation about foul baiting in this generation. I would argue that SGA right now is one of the most polarizing players, and not so much like you've got this.
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Speaker 2
Group that loves him in this.
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Liv Moods
Group that doesn't. But I even internally feel.
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Speaker 2
Polarized about.
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Liv Moods
How I feel about SGA on any given night, because I can say on one side.
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Speaker 2
Of my brain.
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Liv Moods
This is one of the best basketball.
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Speaker 2
Players in the game right.
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Liv Moods
Now. He's an amazing basketball player. There's no that's undeniable. Honestly, it is undeniable that SGA is an outstanding.
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Speaker 2
Basketball player, one of the.
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Liv Moods
Best in the game. That's undeniable.
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Speaker 2
I don't care if you are rooting for OKC or you're not.
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Liv Moods
That fact is undeniable.
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Speaker 2
But the other part of my brain says.
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Liv Moods
The foul baiting is affecting that.
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Speaker 2
The great player.
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Liv Moods
Legacy that I know he is. Two things can be true. So I think SGA is polarizing in the sense that people watching him play don't know how to feel about his game. You can watch.
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Speaker 2
Him and know for a fact.
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Liv Moods
He's an outstanding player. His stat lines will tell you that, and he passes the eye test.
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Speaker 2
Every.
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Liv Moods
Time he does. I was at the game last night and I just kept saying as much as I wanted him to miss, he wasn't missing and he's good and he's smooth with it and there's no denying that. But there's also no denying that he has kind of allowed this foul baiting nonsense to affect the legacy of how great he is as a player.
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Liv Moods
Just be great. Just be great. Now then the conversation continues and you get people that say, well, they all do it. Yes. It would be a lie if I said that SGA was the.
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Speaker 2
Creator of foul baiting. James Harden and his foul baiting Prime would like a word.
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Liv Moods
Okay. I'm just saying SGA did.
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Speaker 2
Not create this problem. Let me make that very clear.
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Liv Moods
That being said.
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Speaker 2
Hear me out.
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Liv Moods
He's not the only person that foul baits, and he hasn't been the.
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Speaker 2
Only person.
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Liv Moods
That's felt this has been.
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Speaker 2
Going on for a long.
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Liv Moods
Time. Nikola Jokic being one of them. And the nuggets fan you know I like to.
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Speaker 2
Keep it 100.
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Liv Moods
Jokic being one of them.
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Speaker 2
But here's why.
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Liv Moods
It's gotten odd. And it has I'm afraid.
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Speaker 2
Here's why.
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Liv Moods
It's got an odd across the league. It is a league wide epidemic.
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Speaker 2
And here's.
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Liv Moods
Why.
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Speaker 2
Players all over.
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Liv Moods
You've watched coaches in postgame.
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Speaker 2
Pressers express frustration.
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Liv Moods
You see it.
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Speaker 2
On players.
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Liv Moods
Faces in the middle of games. Post games, you name it.
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Speaker 2
They're over it. Here's why.
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Liv Moods
Now it's a league wide epidemic.
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Speaker 2
And everybody's.
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Liv Moods
Doing it because they watched SGA.
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Speaker 2
Get rewarded for it every.
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Liv Moods
Single time.
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Speaker 2
Every single.
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Liv Moods
Time. So everybody has foul baited. We've had.
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Speaker 2
Floppers.
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Liv Moods
You know, in this era of basketball.
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Speaker 2
That we're in.
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Liv Moods
Flopping is not new. SGA didn't invent it, but SGA was one of the.
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Speaker 2
First players that was.
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Liv Moods
Constantly. I'm talking.
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Speaker 2
Every.
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Liv Moods
Single game.
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Speaker 2
Rewarded for it.
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Liv Moods
You can't you can't deny that.
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Speaker 2
Unfortunately, even if you're an.
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Liv Moods
OKC fan, I need you to at least acknowledge that SGA is one of the few.
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Speaker 2
Players.
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Liv Moods
That constantly and the.
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Speaker 2
Proof.
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Liv Moods
Guys I'm afraid, is in the stats. It is so SGA being.
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Speaker 2
Constantly rewarded.
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Liv Moods
And then named MVP and then winning a championship. Hell if.
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Speaker 2
I'm other teams and other players, I'm.
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Liv Moods
Going all right, I guess that's the.
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Speaker 2
Recipe.
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Liv Moods
Okay, I guess that's the recipe then I guess I'm flopping. I guess I'm pushing off. I guess that's what we do now. So really, my frustration isn't always just with SGA. It's also with the league.
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Speaker 2
For allowing.
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Liv Moods
It to get this bad. It's been a problem, but now it is an epidemic with no cure because you've let it happen. Not only if you let it happen.
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Speaker 2
You've rewarded it.
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Liv Moods
Now. So now.
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Speaker 2
Every player and team, rightfully.
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Liv Moods
So, feels like I can do that too. Now I can fall to the floor. Now I can push off and get away with it. This is going to start changing the.
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Speaker 2
Game, unfortunately, and not for the better, I'm afraid.
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Liv Moods
So I think that's what people struggle with with SGA. There's no denying the type of.
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Speaker 2
Player that.
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Liv Moods
He is and how how much he's impacted the game in a good way and how talented he is. There's no denying that. But there's also no denying the snowball effect that.
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Speaker 2
Has been created.
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Liv Moods
Because SGA has been.
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Speaker 2
Rewarded for.
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Liv Moods
Something that has.
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Speaker 2
Been a problem.
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Liv Moods
And has typically been.
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Speaker 2
Ignored before. Now players have been rewarded before.
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Liv Moods
Let's not you know, I've seen Embiid get to the line with a couple of flops.
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Speaker 2
We've seen it with Harden.
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Liv Moods
We've seen it with Jokic. We've seen it.
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Speaker 2
But they're not getting rewarded every single time.
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Liv Moods
To the point.
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Speaker 2
Where you're watching.
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Liv Moods
Clips on social media.
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Speaker 2
And you're.
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Liv Moods
Going I don't even see where the foul is. That's how bad it's gotten. So I think the polarization of a guy like SGA is just difficult because.
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Speaker 2
It's hard to not.
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Liv Moods
Talk about SGA and how.
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Speaker 2
Good of a player he.
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Liv Moods
Is without.
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Speaker 2
Bringing up.
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Liv Moods
How nonsensical the foul baiting is. It's gotten out of control. Now, I will say.
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Speaker 2
That Denver game the other night.
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Liv Moods
Was.
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Speaker 2
Refreshing. It was refreshing.
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Liv Moods
We did not get as much foul baiting in that game as we normally would.
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Speaker 2
But now we're just.
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Liv Moods
Seeing it leaguewide. So now it just feels like, oh my God, this.
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Speaker 2
Sport, the.
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Liv Moods
Sport as a whole is annoying. Like, oh my God, you can't do anything without somebody ending.
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Speaker 2
Up on the ground.
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Liv Moods
And the game having to stop because we're at the line. It's just becoming obnoxious. And so.
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Speaker 2
I think there is.
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Liv Moods
It's hard because I want to be able to give SGA and I do.
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Speaker 2
Try like I really do try.
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Liv Moods
I want to be able to give SGA.
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Speaker 2
His proper credit because.
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Liv Moods
He's a.
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Speaker 2
Phenomenal player. But unfortunately.
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Liv Moods
That's why I say there's kind.
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Speaker 2
Of a world where his.
00;19;24;05 - 00;19;32;28
Liv Moods
Legacy has been affected, because you don't talk about SGA anymore without that piece. Any time Suga's.
00;19;32;28 - 00;19;34;19
Speaker 2
Name is brought up.
00;19;34;22 - 00;19;35;10
Liv Moods
You will all.
00;19;35;10 - 00;19;35;26
Speaker 2
Unless they're.
00;19;35;26 - 00;19;40;24
Liv Moods
An OKC fan, you will always have someone that attaches the foul baiting to the.
00;19;40;24 - 00;19;41;25
Speaker 2
End of that conversation.
00;19;41;25 - 00;19;43;11
Liv Moods
And that sucks because he's way.
00;19;43;11 - 00;19;43;24
Speaker 2
More than.
00;19;43;24 - 00;19;44;02
Liv Moods
That.
00;19;44;07 - 00;19;45;19
Speaker 2
He's way more than a foul baiter.
00;19;45;19 - 00;19;47;08
Liv Moods
But that's why I say.
00;19;47;10 - 00;19;48;12
Speaker 2
There may be a world where his.
00;19;48;12 - 00;19;53;15
Liv Moods
Legacy has been a little affected by this, because it's just annoying people. It just gets to a point.
00;19;53;15 - 00;19;53;24
Speaker 2
Where it's.
00;19;53;24 - 00;19;56;10
Liv Moods
Like.
00;19;56;13 - 00;19;56;28
Speaker 2
You're over.
00;19;56;28 - 00;20;01;23
Liv Moods
It. So yeah, I think it's now a leaguewide epidemic. I think now you've got.
00;20;02;01 - 00;20;03;29
Speaker 2
Players across the league that are like.
00;20;03;29 - 00;20;07;01
Liv Moods
Well, my turn. You know, we watch this guy do it.
00;20;07;04 - 00;20;08;23
Speaker 2
We watched him get rewarded.
00;20;08;23 - 00;20;22;13
Liv Moods
We watched him then win an MVP and then we watched him then go on win a championship. So I guess that's the way to do it. And I hate that because that's not the way to do it guys. It's not. So when I look at this OKC.
00;20;22;13 - 00;20;24;09
Speaker 2
Team they're good. They're good.
00;20;24;11 - 00;20;27;20
Liv Moods
They should be they should be feared.
00;20;27;20 - 00;20;29;12
Speaker 2
By the league. Of course, I don't.
00;20;29;12 - 00;20;31;02
Liv Moods
Think any any.
00;20;31;04 - 00;20;32;13
Speaker 2
Fan or team.
00;20;32;13 - 00;20;47;19
Liv Moods
With common sense is is is not fearing OKC. I mean, I think that's just common sense at this point. OKC is good. The Denver Nuggets can be good. Really good actually. And I want to point out that in that game.
00;20;47;22 - 00;20;52;20
Speaker 2
There was one moment where I became really frustrated with the Denver Nuggets, really frustrated.
00;20;52;22 - 00;20;55;29
Liv Moods
And again, I think I could notice.
00;20;55;29 - 00;20;58;10
Speaker 2
From my seat I was pretty close to the court.
00;20;58;13 - 00;20;59;28
Liv Moods
I could notice from my seat.
00;20;59;28 - 00;21;04;01
Speaker 2
Moments where the Denver Nuggets were getting frustrated.
00;21;04;03 - 00;21;13;21
Liv Moods
And I'm not going to blame the officiating, but I think it's just it is a snowball effect. And I do think too, in the game of the NBA officiating.
00;21;13;21 - 00;21;15;05
Speaker 2
Really matters.
00;21;15;07 - 00;21;18;25
Liv Moods
Like a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot in a game of.
00;21;18;25 - 00;21;19;17
Speaker 2
Football. Right.
00;21;19;17 - 00;21;19;29
Liv Moods
You've got.
00;21;19;29 - 00;21;21;01
Speaker 2
Moments where the game.
00;21;21;01 - 00;21;23;11
Liv Moods
Stops just because.
00;21;23;14 - 00;21;26;28
Speaker 2
The play is over. Timeout injuries.
00;21;26;29 - 00;21;32;26
Liv Moods
There's you know, and those things also happen in the world of basketball. But basketball until the whistle is blown.
00;21;32;26 - 00;21;33;23
Speaker 2
Is pretty much.
00;21;33;23 - 00;21;53;22
Liv Moods
Moving nonstop nonstop. There's there's nonstop movement. And so when you have officiating affects the game of basketball a little bit more in my opinion, than the game of football. Because when you blow the whistle, it stops the game. The momentum is now stopped, the energy has shifted. It really does make a huge difference. And I could just notice the Denver.
00;21;53;22 - 00;21;55;04
Speaker 2
Nuggets starting to get frustrated.
00;21;55;04 - 00;21;56;10
Liv Moods
Maybe not because the calls were.
00;21;56;10 - 00;21;56;27
Speaker 2
Necessarily.
00;21;56;27 - 00;22;00;04
Liv Moods
Bad, but just them trying.
00;22;00;04 - 00;22;01;02
Speaker 2
To figure out how.
00;22;01;02 - 00;22;02;16
Liv Moods
To win that game. I could see them.
00;22;02;16 - 00;22;03;13
Speaker 2
Getting frustrated, and.
00;22;03;13 - 00;22;03;27
Liv Moods
The only.
00;22;03;27 - 00;22;05;13
Speaker 2
Thing that really bothered.
00;22;05;13 - 00;22;07;17
Liv Moods
Me was.
00;22;07;19 - 00;22;08;06
Speaker 2
There was about.
00;22;08;06 - 00;22;09;06
Liv Moods
Seven minutes left.
00;22;09;06 - 00;22;10;10
Speaker 2
In the fourth quarter.
00;22;10;13 - 00;22;13;22
Liv Moods
Seven, seven minutes in the fourth quarter.
00;22;13;24 - 00;22;15;01
Speaker 2
They were down by 15.
00;22;15;01 - 00;22;18;00
Liv Moods
And I know 15 feels like a lot.
00;22;18;02 - 00;22;19;22
Speaker 2
There were moments where I was sitting there as a.
00;22;19;22 - 00;22;29;00
Liv Moods
Fan and it felt like a lot, but 15 is not that much. This Denver Nuggets team has overcome way more.
00;22;29;02 - 00;22;31;07
Speaker 2
They've they've overcome a larger deficit.
00;22;31;07 - 00;22;32;04
Liv Moods
With less time.
00;22;32;04 - 00;22;33;07
Speaker 2
In the fourth quarter.
00;22;33;10 - 00;22;44;05
Liv Moods
And I felt like with seven minutes left down by 15 I watched the nuggets give up I did I could feel it. I could feel the energy shift.
00;22;44;12 - 00;22;45;28
Speaker 2
Where I was like, they're done.
00;22;46;00 - 00;22;54;01
Liv Moods
They're done. They don't want to win this one. They don't. And this is just a.
00;22;54;01 - 00;22;54;15
Speaker 2
Regular.
00;22;54;15 - 00;22;55;12
Liv Moods
Season game if you want to.
00;22;55;12 - 00;23;01;04
Speaker 2
Look at it that way. Right. It's February 2nd and we're in the regular season.
00;23;01;06 - 00;23;02;22
Liv Moods
I think the the thing.
00;23;02;22 - 00;23;03;25
Speaker 2
That Denver Nuggets.
00;23;03;25 - 00;23;10;00
Liv Moods
Should take the no not Denver Nuggets, the things that nuggets fans should take away from this OKC game, which was.
00;23;10;00 - 00;23;11;02
Speaker 2
Arguably.
00;23;11;05 - 00;23;11;19
Liv Moods
The most.
00;23;11;19 - 00;23;12;14
Speaker 2
Important game of the.
00;23;12;14 - 00;23;12;27
Liv Moods
Season.
00;23;12;27 - 00;23;13;23
Speaker 2
Thus far.
00;23;13;29 - 00;23;14;14
Liv Moods
Is that the.
00;23;14;14 - 00;23;15;01
Speaker 2
Version.
00;23;15;01 - 00;23;17;19
Liv Moods
That OKC will see in the postseason.
00;23;17;19 - 00;23;18;12
Speaker 2
When it really.
00;23;18;12 - 00;23;23;10
Liv Moods
Matters the most, is not the version they just saw. But on the flip side, it's not going to be.
00;23;23;10 - 00;23;24;08
Speaker 2
The same version.
00;23;24;08 - 00;23;30;05
Liv Moods
That the Denver Nuggets see from OKC either. Can't tell you how happy I was to not.
00;23;30;05 - 00;23;31;22
Speaker 2
Be tormented by Alex Caruso.
00;23;31;22 - 00;23;35;01
Liv Moods
All night honestly. So you're going to get two.
00;23;35;01 - 00;23;36;05
Speaker 2
Very different versions.
00;23;36;05 - 00;23;53;09
Liv Moods
Of these teams if they're healthy come the postseason. That being said, you kind of have to be excited and proud of the fact that the Denver Nuggets lost by ten to a really solid OKC team and OKC was lighting it.
00;23;53;11 - 00;23;54;22
Speaker 2
Up from the three.
00;23;54;22 - 00;24;07;17
Liv Moods
Point line, and the Denver Nuggets only lost by ten. I did not lose confidence in the nuggets team watching this game at all. Jokic is is two games back. This is his second game.
00;24;07;17 - 00;24;08;28
Speaker 2
Back from injury from.
00;24;08;28 - 00;24;09;11
Liv Moods
A.
00;24;09;11 - 00;24;09;23
Speaker 2
Very.
00;24;09;23 - 00;24;10;11
Liv Moods
Long.
00;24;10;11 - 00;24;12;03
Speaker 2
Injury.
00;24;12;05 - 00;24;13;00
Liv Moods
You're still missing.
00;24;13;00 - 00;24;14;19
Speaker 2
Three of your starters.
00;24;14;22 - 00;24;24;18
Liv Moods
And you learn a lot about yourself when you lose. So we move on. You know we we tidy some things up. And we also understand that.
00;24;24;18 - 00;24;26;20
Speaker 2
In just three days, the trend that the trade.
00;24;26;20 - 00;24;27;03
Liv Moods
Deadline.
00;24;27;03 - 00;24;28;23
Speaker 2
Is here and there is a chance.
00;24;28;23 - 00;24;33;15
Liv Moods
That the Denver Nuggets make some movements, what those movements could be, I'm not.
00;24;33;15 - 00;24;33;27
Speaker 2
Sure I've.
00;24;33;27 - 00;24;37;26
Liv Moods
Seen conversations about Hunter Tyson. I've seen conversations about Zeke Nnaji.
00;24;37;26 - 00;24;39;27
Speaker 2
I think conversations about Julian Strother.
00;24;40;00 - 00;24;43;26
Liv Moods
Basically, if you want to know what is going on with the Denver Nuggets and.
00;24;43;26 - 00;24;44;22
Speaker 2
Why there's so.
00;24;44;22 - 00;24;50;29
Liv Moods
Much, you know, what are they going to do ahead of February 5th, what are they going to do ahead of the trade deadline? What is their plan?
00;24;51;02 - 00;24;59;19
Speaker 2
Here's what the Denver Nuggets are trying to avoid. It's very, very simple. The Denver Nuggets are 40. No I'm sorry.
00;24;59;20 - 00;25;00;18
Liv Moods
The Denver Nuggets.
00;25;00;18 - 00;25;01;02
Speaker 2
Are around.
00;25;01;02 - 00;25;03;00
Liv Moods
$400,000.
00;25;03;00 - 00;25;03;16
Speaker 2
Above.
00;25;03;16 - 00;25;10;27
Liv Moods
The tax line. So they're trying to go below the tax line. They're continuing.
00;25;10;27 - 00;25;12;16
Speaker 2
To try to get creative.
00;25;12;16 - 00;25;17;02
Liv Moods
And see if they can move some pieces to be basically to cancel out.
00;25;17;02 - 00;25;18;15
Speaker 2
That $400,000.
00;25;18;15 - 00;25;31;23
Liv Moods
So that they can be below the tax line. Zeke Nagy has been in conversations as it, as it pertains to this trade deadline. Hunter Tyson's name has been coming up as we.
00;25;31;23 - 00;25;33;11
Speaker 2
Approached this trade deadline.
00;25;33;18 - 00;25;34;17
Liv Moods
Really? I think.
00;25;34;17 - 00;25;34;29
Speaker 2
The Denver.
00;25;34;29 - 00;25;50;03
Liv Moods
Nuggets know Peyton Watson got more expensive this season. Peyton Watson also is not the guy you want to watch walk. He's young. His ceiling is high. His stock is up.
00;25;50;06 - 00;25;52;13
Speaker 2
And he currently brings a lot of value.
00;25;52;13 - 00;25;55;18
Liv Moods
To this Denver Nuggets team, and probably even more.
00;25;55;20 - 00;25;58;15
Speaker 2
Now that Aaron Gordon is out for another 4 to.
00;25;58;15 - 00;26;00;24
Liv Moods
6 weeks. I just don't think the Denver Nuggets can.
00;26;00;24 - 00;26;03;10
Speaker 2
Afford.
00;26;03;12 - 00;26;09;11
Liv Moods
To lose Peyton Watson. And I know he's become more expensive. And I don't expect.
00;26;09;11 - 00;26;09;18
Speaker 2
Or.
00;26;09;18 - 00;26;11;23
Liv Moods
Want Peyton Watson to take less money just to stay.
00;26;11;23 - 00;26;12;18
Speaker 2
In Denver. I don't.
00;26;12;23 - 00;26;13;07
Liv Moods
I want him to.
00;26;13;07 - 00;26;14;12
Speaker 2
Get what he deserves.
00;26;14;14 - 00;26;16;04
Liv Moods
I do, and I.
00;26;16;04 - 00;26;19;21
Speaker 2
Know that right now, it's not really a matter of whether or not Denver has the.
00;26;19;21 - 00;26;22;19
Liv Moods
Money. It's a matter of can they pay Peyton what he.
00;26;22;19 - 00;26;23;09
Speaker 2
Deserves.
00;26;23;09 - 00;26;24;08
Liv Moods
Without going.
00;26;24;08 - 00;26;24;22
Speaker 2
Over that.
00;26;24;22 - 00;26;25;11
Liv Moods
Tax line.
00;26;25;11 - 00;26;27;18
Speaker 2
Anymore? They're trying to get under it.
00;26;27;18 - 00;26;38;02
Liv Moods
They're trying to eliminate having that going into that second apron. So Peyton Watson deserves get paid.
00;26;38;04 - 00;26;39;00
Speaker 2
There are pieces.
00;26;39;00 - 00;26;39;09
Liv Moods
On this.
00;26;39;09 - 00;26;40;10
Speaker 2
Nuggets roster that I think.
00;26;40;10 - 00;26;51;12
Liv Moods
You can move that still hold some value. And thankfully so I'm never happy about guys getting injured. But in this case the injuries have allowed.
00;26;51;12 - 00;26;52;03
Speaker 2
For.
00;26;52;04 - 00;26;53;29
Liv Moods
Zeke energy to have some minutes.
00;26;53;29 - 00;26;55;20
Speaker 2
Julian Strother to play a little bit.
00;26;55;20 - 00;27;10;05
Liv Moods
Hunter Tyson to have some moments. So so there's some there's still some value there that you might be able to get something for. You might be able to get something for, but Peyton Watson needs to be paid. He does. And he can't be.
00;27;10;05 - 00;27;11;23
Speaker 2
Paid anywhere else. I'm telling you right now.
00;27;11;23 - 00;27;14;05
Liv Moods
I will not allow it. It will. It will send me.
00;27;14;05 - 00;27;15;01
Speaker 2
Over the.
00;27;15;01 - 00;27;17;14
Liv Moods
Edge. Because when you've got.
00;27;17;14 - 00;27;17;28
Speaker 2
An Aaron.
00;27;17;28 - 00;27;19;16
Liv Moods
Gordon who I do have some.
00;27;19;16 - 00;27;20;02
Speaker 2
Concerns.
00;27;20;02 - 00;27;21;08
Liv Moods
About, and not because.
00;27;21;15 - 00;27;23;20
Speaker 2
I don't trust his body or the way that he trains.
00;27;23;20 - 00;27;27;03
Liv Moods
I mean, if if there's anybody on this team that's in peak shape and.
00;27;27;03 - 00;27;28;09
Speaker 2
Prioritizes their.
00;27;28;09 - 00;27;29;09
Liv Moods
Offseason the best.
00;27;29;09 - 00;27;31;17
Speaker 2
It's Aaron Gordon.
00;27;31;20 - 00;27;34;09
Liv Moods
It is.
00;27;34;11 - 00;27;39;08
Speaker 2
But hamstrings are nagging. Hamstrings linger. And Aaron Gordon plays.
00;27;39;08 - 00;27;42;20
Liv Moods
Such an explosive game that I just think this.
00;27;42;20 - 00;27;45;01
Speaker 2
Is arguably one of the most unfortunate injuries he.
00;27;45;01 - 00;27;46;07
Liv Moods
Could have.
00;27;46;09 - 00;27;47;20
Speaker 2
So I do worry about AG.
00;27;47;20 - 00;27;50;13
Liv Moods
And I do think that it would be in the Denver Nuggets best.
00;27;50;13 - 00;27;51;17
Speaker 2
Interest to rest him as.
00;27;51;17 - 00;27;57;03
Liv Moods
Long as possible, even when he seems ready. Let's pretend he's not.
00;27;57;06 - 00;27;57;25
Speaker 2
Because there is.
00;27;57;25 - 00;27;58;20
Liv Moods
Nobody.
00;27;58;20 - 00;28;00;17
Speaker 2
More valuable to have on your team.
00;28;00;17 - 00;28;01;19
Liv Moods
In the postseason.
00;28;01;19 - 00;28;06;27
Speaker 2
Than in Aaron Gordon. So I'd rather him not play in the regular.
00;28;06;27 - 00;28;14;00
Liv Moods
Season, because we've seen that a guy like Peyton Watson is doing just fine in his place, just fine in his place.
00;28;14;02 - 00;28;14;23
Speaker 2
So rest.
00;28;14;23 - 00;28;17;23
Liv Moods
AG as long as you need to in order to keep.
00;28;17;23 - 00;28;19;04
Speaker 2
Him ready for the.
00;28;19;04 - 00;28;26;17
Liv Moods
Postseason when it matters the absolute most. That's my vote. So now.
00;28;26;18 - 00;28;27;17
Speaker 2
More than ever, you.
00;28;27;17 - 00;28;34;23
Liv Moods
Need to pay Peyton Watson because you've got an Aaron Gordon that's out an additional 4 to 6 weeks. And who knows after that.
00;28;34;25 - 00;28;35;26
Speaker 2
And you're going to.
00;28;35;26 - 00;28;36;28
Liv Moods
Want to keep a good standing.
00;28;36;28 - 00;28;39;00
Speaker 2
In the Western Conference.
00;28;39;03 - 00;28;45;13
Liv Moods
And you don't do that without Peyton Watson. You just don't. So you move some pieces, right.
00;28;45;15 - 00;28;47;00
Speaker 2
You're $400,000.
00;28;47;00 - 00;28;49;18
Liv Moods
Above the tax line.
00;28;49;20 - 00;28;52;06
Speaker 2
They're trying to move pieces. You move every piece.
00;28;52;06 - 00;29;02;22
Liv Moods
You possibly can. You pinch as many pennies as you have to to keep Peyton Watson. Because I don't think it's an option. Without AG. You lose AG.
00;29;02;22 - 00;29;03;18
Speaker 2
For 4 to 6 weeks.
00;29;03;18 - 00;29;04;04
Liv Moods
And maybe.
00;29;04;04 - 00;29;04;18
Speaker 2
More.
00;29;04;18 - 00;29;07;03
Liv Moods
And Peyton Watson.
00;29;07;05 - 00;29;12;07
Speaker 2
It's going to be a problem. So it's February 2nd.
00;29;12;08 - 00;29;14;12
Liv Moods
No moves have been made by the Denver Nuggets.
00;29;14;17 - 00;29;15;28
Speaker 2
It's also February 2nd.
00;29;15;28 - 00;29;17;09
Liv Moods
And no moves have been made.
00;29;17;09 - 00;29;17;25
Speaker 2
For Mr..
00;29;17;25 - 00;29;18;24
Liv Moods
Yanez. Let's talk about.
00;29;18;24 - 00;29;19;07
Speaker 2
That really.
00;29;19;07 - 00;29;20;18
Liv Moods
Quick okay.
00;29;20;20 - 00;29;23;17
Speaker 2
As of January 29th.
00;29;23;20 - 00;29;26;12
Liv Moods
There was a 25% chance he was going to be with the New York Knicks.
00;29;26;12 - 00;29;28;03
Speaker 2
15% with the Warriors.
00;29;28;03 - 00;29;30;04
Liv Moods
12% with the heat. Then by.
00;29;30;04 - 00;29;31;08
Speaker 2
January 30th.
00;29;31;15 - 00;29;32;11
Liv Moods
We had a flip.
00;29;32;14 - 00;29;34;02
Speaker 2
Warriors 35%.
00;29;34;02 - 00;29;36;11
Liv Moods
Chance. Heat 15, Knicks 12.
00;29;36;14 - 00;29;37;22
Speaker 2
As of February 1st.
00;29;37;29 - 00;29;39;17
Liv Moods
The Bulls.
00;29;39;19 - 00;29;40;21
Speaker 2
Have now entered the chat.
00;29;40;21 - 00;29;42;25
Liv Moods
30% chance.
00;29;42;27 - 00;29;43;29
Speaker 2
Warriors 11.
00;29;43;29 - 00;29;45;01
Liv Moods
Heat six and as of.
00;29;45;01 - 00;29;45;17
Speaker 2
February.
00;29;45;17 - 00;29;54;04
Liv Moods
2nd, 55% chance that he is not traded at all.
00;29;54;06 - 00;29;59;17
Liv Moods
That's what people are saying. That's what the people believe that now, as of February.
00;29;59;17 - 00;30;00;10
Speaker 2
2nd, there is.
00;30;00;10 - 00;30;02;23
Liv Moods
A 55% chance that Giannis will.
00;30;02;23 - 00;30;06;05
Speaker 2
Not be traded at all.
00;30;06;07 - 00;30;07;13
Speaker 2
Giannis has expressed that he.
00;30;07;13 - 00;30;11;09
Liv Moods
Doesn't want to be there. I think when a guy has done.
00;30;11;09 - 00;30;12;04
Speaker 2
So much for your.
00;30;12;04 - 00;30;14;07
Liv Moods
Franchise and he no.
00;30;14;07 - 00;30;15;21
Speaker 2
Longer wants to be there, why.
00;30;15;21 - 00;30;18;08
Liv Moods
Keep him?
00;30;18;11 - 00;30;22;08
Liv Moods
Why would you want a Yanis playing on your team that doesn't want to be there?
00;30;22;08 - 00;30;23;00
Speaker 2
You really think you're going to.
00;30;23;00 - 00;30;29;21
Liv Moods
Get the most out of him? I think Yanis has been patient with the bucks.
00;30;29;23 - 00;30;31;04
Speaker 2
Following their reign.
00;30;31;06 - 00;30;32;22
Liv Moods
With Giannis.
00;30;32;24 - 00;30;33;27
Speaker 2
In their prime with.
00;30;33;27 - 00;30;36;01
Liv Moods
Giannis, he's been very patient as.
00;30;36;01 - 00;30;37;26
Speaker 2
They've been trying to rebuild around.
00;30;37;26 - 00;30;43;29
Liv Moods
Him and get back to to another finals. He's been patient and I think.
00;30;43;29 - 00;30;46;15
Speaker 2
When you're when you're a player of his caliber it just.
00;30;46;15 - 00;30;48;03
Liv Moods
Gets to a point.
00;30;48;05 - 00;30;50;15
Speaker 2
Where.
00;30;50;17 - 00;30;51;20
Liv Moods
You've waited long enough.
00;30;51;20 - 00;30;52;05
Speaker 2
And you're ready.
00;30;52;05 - 00;30;53;08
Liv Moods
To win again.
00;30;53;11 - 00;30;55;01
Speaker 2
You're ready to be a force to.
00;30;55;01 - 00;31;05;24
Liv Moods
Be reckoned with again. Giannis has expressed he wants to go. So let him go. Let him go. Let's not do the whole Jimmy Butler 2.0.
00;31;05;24 - 00;31;06;12
Speaker 2
Thing where you're.
00;31;06;12 - 00;31;09;11
Liv Moods
Basically holding this man against his will and he's just.
00;31;09;13 - 00;31;10;21
Speaker 2
Miserable.
00;31;10;23 - 00;31;11;27
Liv Moods
And he's unhappy.
00;31;11;27 - 00;31;13;04
Speaker 2
And you're unhappy.
00;31;13;04 - 00;31;14;07
Liv Moods
And now the.
00;31;14;07 - 00;31;15;28
Speaker 2
Entire roster is suffering.
00;31;16;05 - 00;31;19;12
Liv Moods
Because you didn't just let this guy go.
00;31;19;14 - 00;31;20;22
Speaker 2
Will Yanis be traded is the.
00;31;20;22 - 00;31;21;00
Liv Moods
Ultimate.
00;31;21;00 - 00;31;22;10
Speaker 2
Question. There's three days.
00;31;22;10 - 00;31;24;06
Liv Moods
Left.
00;31;24;08 - 00;31;25;02
Speaker 2
Three days.
00;31;25;02 - 00;31;27;15
Liv Moods
The bucks have to make a move, and it just doesn't seem like.
00;31;27;15 - 00;31;32;20
Speaker 2
It's a priority of theirs. Or there's just not.
00;31;32;22 - 00;31;33;12
Liv Moods
It's just.
00;31;33;12 - 00;31;33;28
Speaker 2
Not worth.
00;31;33;28 - 00;31;38;13
Liv Moods
It to them. This is a business. At the end of the day, if you're not getting what you believe you.
00;31;38;13 - 00;31;40;12
Speaker 2
Should get for Giannis in return, then.
00;31;40;12 - 00;31;40;29
Liv Moods
It isn't.
00;31;40;29 - 00;31;41;11
Speaker 2
Worth it.
00;31;41;11 - 00;31;43;16
Liv Moods
From a business standpoint. A lot of moving.
00;31;43;16 - 00;31;44;01
Speaker 2
Parts in this.
00;31;44;01 - 00;31;44;13
Liv Moods
Business.
00;31;44;13 - 00;31;45;11
Speaker 2
Unfortunately.
00;31;45;18 - 00;31;47;03
Liv Moods
And just because.
00;31;47;03 - 00;31;49;09
Speaker 2
You are a player of his caliber and you.
00;31;49;09 - 00;31;50;23
Liv Moods
Have a demand.
00;31;50;23 - 00;31;51;27
Speaker 2
Or a desire to.
00;31;51;27 - 00;31;54;15
Liv Moods
Get something, doesn't always mean you get it, because.
00;31;54;15 - 00;31;55;29
Speaker 2
There are a lot of moving parts.
00;31;55;29 - 00;31;56;13
Liv Moods
And unless.
00;31;56;13 - 00;31;58;28
Speaker 2
Those moving parts can work together.
00;31;58;28 - 00;31;59;29
Liv Moods
Sometimes it just.
00;31;59;29 - 00;32;00;16
Speaker 2
Doesn't work.
00;32;00;16 - 00;32;02;13
Liv Moods
Out. Now, sometimes you do get.
00;32;02;13 - 00;32;03;08
Speaker 2
A stubborn front.
00;32;03;08 - 00;32;11;13
Liv Moods
Office that's just intentionally being difficult, and sometimes you just get a front office. It's like, what's in it for us? Like, we are not getting enough.
00;32;11;18 - 00;32;12;04
Speaker 2
Trading.
00;32;12;04 - 00;32;12;27
Liv Moods
You to.
00;32;12;27 - 00;32;13;28
Speaker 2
Make it worth it for us.
00;32;13;28 - 00;32;19;18
Liv Moods
And this is a business. At the end of the day,
00;32;19;21 - 00;32;20;24
Liv Moods
It would be so.
00;32;20;24 - 00;32;21;09
Speaker 2
Rude.
00;32;21;09 - 00;32;23;27
Liv Moods
Of me not to mention that this is.
00;32;23;27 - 00;32;26;19
Speaker 2
The year that Jamal Murray was named an all star.
00;32;26;21 - 00;32;29;04
Liv Moods
Congratulations to Jamal.
00;32;29;04 - 00;32;30;06
Speaker 2
Star Murray.
00;32;30;07 - 00;32;33;21
Liv Moods
Who is finally, finally named.
00;32;33;24 - 00;32;34;21
Speaker 2
An all star in the.
00;32;34;21 - 00;32;35;23
Liv Moods
NBA. And I had.
00;32;35;23 - 00;32;37;20
Speaker 2
Someone resurface a tweet where I said.
00;32;37;20 - 00;32;38;22
Liv Moods
Something, you know, I was.
00;32;38;22 - 00;32;42;29
Speaker 2
Just being critical of Jamal Murray. And it was from last season.
00;32;43;01 - 00;32;43;17
Liv Moods
I tweeted.
00;32;43;17 - 00;32;44;18
Speaker 2
About I celebrated him.
00;32;44;18 - 00;32;46;05
Liv Moods
Getting, named.
00;32;46;05 - 00;32;49;12
Speaker 2
An all star this year. And somebody brought up a tweet from last season.
00;32;49;14 - 00;32;51;06
Liv Moods
And basically was like this, you question.
00;32;51;06 - 00;32;53;25
Speaker 2
Mark, I'm like, yep, sure is. I'm not sure what your point is.
00;32;53;25 - 00;32;58;23
Liv Moods
Jamal did not play this way last season. Anyone that actually watches the Denver Nuggets knows.
00;32;58;23 - 00;32;59;18
Speaker 2
Jamal Murray wasn't.
00;32;59;18 - 00;33;00;07
Liv Moods
Fit to be an all.
00;33;00;07 - 00;33;01;20
Speaker 2
Star last year. Are you joking.
00;33;01;20 - 00;33;03;14
Liv Moods
Me.
00;33;03;16 - 00;33;08;09
Speaker 2
Or the year before that? Now there were plenty of years before.
00;33;08;09 - 00;33;10;15
Liv Moods
That though that you could make a case of Jamal.
00;33;10;15 - 00;33;13;11
Speaker 2
Murray deserve to be an all star. But there was.
00;33;13;11 - 00;33;16;29
Liv Moods
Quite a bit of inconsistency over the last couple of seasons.
00;33;16;29 - 00;33;18;14
Speaker 2
That would warrant Jamal Murray.
00;33;18;14 - 00;33;19;15
Liv Moods
Not being named an.
00;33;19;15 - 00;33;20;12
Speaker 2
All star, and that's.
00;33;20;12 - 00;33;24;28
Liv Moods
Common sense. That was not me being a hater. I wanted nothing.
00;33;24;28 - 00;33;27;27
Speaker 2
More than for Jamal Murray to be an all star. My frustrations with.
00;33;27;27 - 00;33;28;16
Liv Moods
Jamal last.
00;33;28;16 - 00;33;29;12
Speaker 2
Year were that he.
00;33;29;12 - 00;33;30;12
Liv Moods
Wasn't playing like an.
00;33;30;12 - 00;33;30;28
Speaker 2
All star, and I.
00;33;30;28 - 00;33;33;07
Liv Moods
Knew he could be one.
00;33;33;09 - 00;33;34;25
Speaker 2
That was my frustration.
00;33;34;28 - 00;33;38;04
Liv Moods
So he's finally named an all.
00;33;38;04 - 00;33;38;18
Speaker 2
Star, and.
00;33;38;18 - 00;33;39;25
Liv Moods
It's because.
00;33;39;28 - 00;33;44;14
Speaker 2
Of what you're getting from him when you're getting it from him. There were a lot.
00;33;44;14 - 00;33;46;20
Liv Moods
Of nuggets fans that I felt like.
00;33;46;23 - 00;33;50;02
Speaker 2
Unfairly called for Jamal Murray to be an all star.
00;33;50;04 - 00;33;54;20
Liv Moods
Over the past couple of seasons, I would make the case that.
00;33;54;20 - 00;33;55;14
Speaker 2
Jamal Murray.
00;33;55;14 - 00;33;57;08
Liv Moods
Wasn't fit to.
00;33;57;08 - 00;33;59;08
Speaker 2
Be an all star, wasn't deserving of an all star.
00;33;59;09 - 00;34;00;25
Liv Moods
Now, if the all.
00;34;00;25 - 00;34;02;02
Speaker 2
Star game.
00;34;02;02 - 00;34;09;01
Liv Moods
Followed the playoffs, well, yeah, but playoff Jamal.
00;34;09;04 - 00;34;12;13
Speaker 2
Is a springtime wonder. We weren't.
00;34;12;13 - 00;34;13;21
Liv Moods
Always getting that.
00;34;13;23 - 00;34;16;10
Speaker 2
In the regular season. There were a lot of people that were like, this.
00;34;16;10 - 00;34;19;26
Liv Moods
Is why he's not an all star. Because what was that what you're.
00;34;19;26 - 00;34;20;25
Speaker 2
Getting from Jamal Murray.
00;34;20;25 - 00;34;23;13
Liv Moods
This season is what we used to have to.
00;34;23;13 - 00;34;26;00
Speaker 2
Wait for the postseason for.
00;34;26;03 - 00;34;28;25
Liv Moods
And now you're getting it. Now, I've always known that.
00;34;28;25 - 00;34;29;20
Speaker 2
Jamal Murray was.
00;34;29;20 - 00;34;30;24
Liv Moods
Capable of being an.
00;34;30;24 - 00;34;33;11
Speaker 2
All star.
00;34;33;14 - 00;34;34;04
Speaker 2
We just weren't.
00;34;34;04 - 00;34;37;29
Liv Moods
Always seeing it on a consistent enough basis to go yep.
00;34;38;01 - 00;34;39;06
Speaker 2
He's an all star.
00;34;39;08 - 00;34;40;24
Liv Moods
Now let's talk about the.
00;34;40;24 - 00;34;41;27
Speaker 2
All star.
00;34;41;29 - 00;34;45;00
Liv Moods
Snubs if you will. I've seen some I've seen some discourse.
00;34;45;00 - 00;34;48;00
Speaker 2
I've seen some conversations about the All Star snubs this year.
00;34;48;00 - 00;34;54;15
Liv Moods
And let me just give you my stance on it. To me, the snub.
00;34;54;15 - 00;34;56;28
Speaker 2
Conversation is hard, right?
00;34;57;00 - 00;34;58;16
Liv Moods
But the snub conversation is only.
00;34;58;16 - 00;34;58;28
Speaker 2
Hard for.
00;34;58;28 - 00;35;00;17
Liv Moods
Me now because.
00;35;00;17 - 00;35;01;15
Speaker 2
I have trained.
00;35;01;15 - 00;35;02;04
Liv Moods
Myself.
00;35;02;04 - 00;35;04;12
Speaker 2
Into understanding what the All Star is really.
00;35;04;12 - 00;35;10;23
Liv Moods
About. It's not about season stats, guys. It's not.
00;35;10;25 - 00;35;13;08
Speaker 2
The all star voters care more about reputation.
00;35;13;08 - 00;35;17;10
Liv Moods
Than they do about season stats, because if it was about season stats, then.
00;35;17;10 - 00;35;17;23
Speaker 2
Where's.
00;35;17;26 - 00;35;20;10
Liv Moods
PJ?
00;35;20;13 - 00;35;22;16
Speaker 2
And before you say, well, the Brooklyn Nets are.
00;35;22;16 - 00;35;24;04
Liv Moods
Bad, this is not a most Valuable.
00;35;24;04 - 00;35;24;27
Speaker 2
Player award.
00;35;24;28 - 00;35;26;24
Liv Moods
This is an all star award. This is a.
00;35;26;24 - 00;35;29;04
Speaker 2
Star driven league. And we are looking.
00;35;29;04 - 00;35;31;11
Liv Moods
Specifically at individual.
00;35;31;11 - 00;35;32;00
Speaker 2
Players.
00;35;32;06 - 00;35;32;14
Liv Moods
And.
00;35;32;14 - 00;35;34;04
Speaker 2
Their level of performance.
00;35;34;07 - 00;35;37;07
Liv Moods
If you look individually, Michael Porter.
00;35;37;07 - 00;35;38;19
Speaker 2
Jr.
00;35;38;21 - 00;35;41;02
Liv Moods
Could have and probably should have been named.
00;35;41;02 - 00;35;41;29
Speaker 2
An all star this year.
00;35;42;04 - 00;35;43;26
Liv Moods
But that's not what it's about.
00;35;43;29 - 00;35;48;14
Speaker 2
It's about reputation. There are certain players that have a certain.
00;35;48;14 - 00;35;50;29
Liv Moods
Reputation that no matter what they do from.
00;35;50;29 - 00;35;51;13
Speaker 2
A stat.
00;35;51;13 - 00;35;55;00
Liv Moods
Perspective, they will always be included in the all.
00;35;55;00 - 00;35;56;05
Speaker 2
Star conversation.
00;35;56;05 - 00;35;58;27
Liv Moods
Always.
00;35;58;29 - 00;36;01;14
Speaker 2
So there were some snubs.
00;36;01;14 - 00;36;02;12
Liv Moods
You know, you look at.
00;36;02;12 - 00;36;08;24
Speaker 2
Individual performance where's Kawhi Leonard then?
00;36;08;26 - 00;36;09;28
Speaker 2
There's a lot of players you.
00;36;09;28 - 00;36;13;14
Liv Moods
Can make a case for. But I have trained myself in understanding what this.
00;36;13;14 - 00;36;13;27
Speaker 2
Is really.
00;36;13;27 - 00;36;15;01
Liv Moods
About and the.
00;36;15;01 - 00;36;15;24
Speaker 2
Popularity.
00;36;15;24 - 00;36;16;26
Liv Moods
Contest that it is.
00;36;16;26 - 00;36;17;26
Speaker 2
And I really think.
00;36;17;26 - 00;36;18;27
Liv Moods
The only solution.
00;36;18;27 - 00;36;19;25
Speaker 2
To this problem to.
00;36;19;25 - 00;36;21;06
Liv Moods
Avoid the snubs.
00;36;21;08 - 00;36;22;06
Speaker 2
Altogether.
00;36;22;09 - 00;36;25;18
Liv Moods
Is to do away with East and West.
00;36;25;20 - 00;36;27;29
Speaker 2
It's just your best players.
00;36;27;29 - 00;36;28;29
Liv Moods
In the league.
00;36;28;29 - 00;36;30;09
Speaker 2
Because here's the.
00;36;30;09 - 00;36;33;10
Liv Moods
Reality. And no offense, but the.
00;36;33;10 - 00;36;36;01
Speaker 2
Western Conference from a talent perspective.
00;36;36;01 - 00;36;38;22
Liv Moods
In my humble opinion.
00;36;38;24 - 00;36;42;05
Speaker 2
Is far more superior than the Eastern Conference most.
00;36;42;05 - 00;36;45;10
Liv Moods
Of the time. So if you're being.
00;36;45;10 - 00;36;47;07
Speaker 2
Forced to pick.
00;36;47;10 - 00;36;48;10
Liv Moods
Out of the Eastern.
00;36;48;10 - 00;36;54;29
Speaker 2
Conference, you're going to get guys that you're like, what, him over him.
00;36;55;02 - 00;36;55;12
Liv Moods
That.
00;36;55;12 - 00;36;56;28
Speaker 2
Guy over Kawhi Leonard.
00;36;56;28 - 00;36;58;21
Liv Moods
What? But you have.
00;36;58;21 - 00;36;59;21
Speaker 2
To pick from the East.
00;36;59;21 - 00;37;00;18
Liv Moods
And you have to.
00;37;00;18 - 00;37;01;04
Speaker 2
Pick from the.
00;37;01;04 - 00;37;02;06
Liv Moods
West. So now.
00;37;02;12 - 00;37;03;10
Speaker 2
Unfortunately.
00;37;03;10 - 00;37;06;25
Liv Moods
Because the West is so stacked, you've got guys.
00;37;06;28 - 00;37;07;09
Speaker 2
That are.
00;37;07;09 - 00;37;09;02
Liv Moods
Being kind of.
00;37;09;02 - 00;37;11;05
Speaker 2
Caught in the crossfire, collateral damage.
00;37;11;05 - 00;37;12;13
Liv Moods
A little bit because.
00;37;12;15 - 00;37;14;04
Speaker 2
They're forced to pick from east and.
00;37;14;04 - 00;37;14;18
Liv Moods
West.
00;37;14;18 - 00;37;22;26
Speaker 2
And there's more talent in the West than there is in the east. So unfortunately some of these Western guys get snubbed. It happens every year.
00;37;22;29 - 00;37;28;17
Liv Moods
I think the only way you solve this problem is doing away with East and West, and just picking the best.
00;37;28;21 - 00;37;29;21
Speaker 2
Stars in.
00;37;29;21 - 00;37;32;16
Liv Moods
The league.
00;37;32;18 - 00;37;36;25
Liv Moods
That's it. Just the best guys in the league.
00;37;36;28 - 00;37;39;14
Speaker 2
Because as trades.
00;37;39;14 - 00;37;40;17
Liv Moods
Keep happening, as.
00;37;40;17 - 00;37;42;10
Speaker 2
Superstars start demanding.
00;37;42;10 - 00;37;43;15
Liv Moods
I want to get out of.
00;37;43;15 - 00;37;44;07
Speaker 2
Here.
00;37;44;09 - 00;38;00;05
Liv Moods
You start losing a Giannis from the East to the West. Now who's getting snubbed because Giannis is in the West. Do away with East and West in all star voting. Just do away with it. Just take your best guys. And this is not most valuable player.
00;38;00;06 - 00;38;02;03
Speaker 2
So their team records shouldn't matter.
00;38;02;05 - 00;38;04;29
Liv Moods
We have enough technology to be able to.
00;38;05;00 - 00;38;06;01
Speaker 2
Very clearly.
00;38;06;01 - 00;38;08;29
Liv Moods
See the most impactful individual.
00;38;08;29 - 00;38;09;22
Speaker 2
Players in.
00;38;09;22 - 00;38;11;12
Liv Moods
This league. And the all.
00;38;11;12 - 00;38;14;23
Speaker 2
Star season that they are having, regardless of the team record.
00;38;14;23 - 00;38;20;15
Liv Moods
To me, team record is kind of a lazy way to do it. Oh, let's just look at the best teams and pick the best.
00;38;20;15 - 00;38;21;00
Speaker 2
Player on.
00;38;21;00 - 00;38;30;17
Liv Moods
Each team. That's so lame. That's so lame. So, you know, don't punish these guys that are having these standout seasons because.
00;38;30;25 - 00;38;31;07
Speaker 2
They're on a.
00;38;31;07 - 00;38;33;27
Liv Moods
Crappy team that doesn't. That doesn't take.
00;38;33;27 - 00;38;35;27
Speaker 2
Away from their all star performances.
00;38;35;27 - 00;38;39;04
Liv Moods
Day in and day out. So do away with East and West, because I think.
00;38;39;11 - 00;38;41;09
Speaker 2
You force yourself to start picking.
00;38;41;09 - 00;38;44;11
Liv Moods
Out of the East because you have to. You got to find the guys.
00;38;44;11 - 00;38;46;02
Speaker 2
That are best out there. And now.
00;38;46;04 - 00;38;47;22
Liv Moods
Some of the West guys are getting snubbed.
00;38;47;22 - 00;38;50;10
Speaker 2
And vice versa. Pick your.
00;38;50;10 - 00;38;51;29
Liv Moods
Best guys.
00;38;52;01 - 00;39;00;10
Speaker 2
It's very simple. Pick your all stars regardless of where they play. Pick your all.
00;39;00;10 - 00;39;00;22
Liv Moods
Stars.
00;39;00;22 - 00;39;02;03
Speaker 2
So there are some snubs.
00;39;02;03 - 00;39;06;13
Liv Moods
Yes. But nothing we haven't seen before unfortunately. So I think unless they.
00;39;06;13 - 00;39;08;27
Speaker 2
Create a new system around this All-Star voting, you're going to.
00;39;08;27 - 00;39;11;07
Liv Moods
Continue to have snubs. You will.
00;39;11;09 - 00;39;11;25
Speaker 2
Every single.
00;39;11;25 - 00;39;13;08
Liv Moods
Time, but.
00;39;13;11 - 00;39;16;17
Speaker 2
Who cares? Jamal Murray is an all star.
00;39;16;19 - 00;39;18;13
Liv Moods
You know and you know, now.
00;39;18;13 - 00;39;19;01
Speaker 2
Unfortunately.
00;39;19;01 - 00;39;21;10
Liv Moods
Nuggets fans hate to say it, but we can no.
00;39;21;10 - 00;39;21;26
Speaker 2
Longer say.
00;39;21;26 - 00;39;22;26
Liv Moods
That Nikola Jokic doesn't.
00;39;22;26 - 00;39;23;21
Speaker 2
Have an all star. He does.
00;39;23;21 - 00;39;27;06
Liv Moods
Now. And we always knew he had one that was sitting.
00;39;27;06 - 00;39;28;07
Speaker 2
There like waiting for his.
00;39;28;07 - 00;39;32;14
Liv Moods
Moment. But now he has one. It's officially officially official.
00;39;32;14 - 00;39;33;08
Speaker 2
He has an all star.
00;39;33;08 - 00;39;34;18
Liv Moods
So no more.
00;39;34;18 - 00;39;37;23
Speaker 2
Complaining from us I'm afraid. Whatever we get.
00;39;37;23 - 00;39;41;24
Liv Moods
Is what we get. And he has an all star, so he has help. That's.
00;39;42;01 - 00;39;44;05
Speaker 2
I guarantee you, the haters are waiting for the moment.
00;39;44;05 - 00;39;55;06
Liv Moods
That they can tell us. You don't get to say that anymore. Yeah. So, anyway, the NBA is in full swing, and the Denver Nuggets.
00;39;55;06 - 00;39;57;07
Speaker 2
Are still riddled with injuries, but.
00;39;57;07 - 00;40;01;09
Liv Moods
Hopefully coming back. I saw that CB, thankfully has been.
00;40;01;09 - 00;40;02;15
Speaker 2
Upgraded from.
00;40;02;15 - 00;40;09;22
Liv Moods
Doubtful to probable in the last game. Or maybe it was questionable to doubtful, I don't know. He's being moved up the ladder.
00;40;09;22 - 00;40;13;10
Speaker 2
A little bit, so fingers and toes are crossed.
00;40;13;12 - 00;40;15;18
Liv Moods
The Denver Nuggets will be just fine. They will.
00;40;15;25 - 00;40;17;10
Speaker 2
I'm not worried about it at all.
00;40;17;12 - 00;40;19;01
Liv Moods
And,
00;40;19;03 - 00;40;20;12
Speaker 2
More coverage on.
00;40;20;12 - 00;40;23;08
Liv Moods
This team and the NBA as a whole.
00;40;23;08 - 00;40;24;22
Speaker 2
On Friday for another.
00;40;24;22 - 00;40;25;24
Liv Moods
Episode of Mood Swings.
00;40;25;24 - 00;40;28;15
Speaker 2
And before I forget, Landmark Lincoln is doing a pretty.
00;40;28;15 - 00;40;33;06
Liv Moods
Cool sales event. The Lincoln Certified sales event is happening now.
00;40;33;06 - 00;40;35;16
Speaker 2
At Landmark Lincoln. Discover the confidence.
00;40;35;16 - 00;40;35;22
Liv Moods
Of.
00;40;35;22 - 00;40;37;07
Speaker 2
Lincoln certified pre-owned.
00;40;37;07 - 00;40;39;20
Liv Moods
Vehicles meticulously inspected.
00;40;39;20 - 00;40;42;04
Speaker 2
Thoughtfully refined, and ready for the road.
00;40;42;04 - 00;40;42;21
Liv Moods
Ahead.
00;40;42;28 - 00;40;43;17
Speaker 2
For a limited.
00;40;43;18 - 00;40;45;10
Liv Moods
Time, enjoy special Apr.
00;40;45;10 - 00;40;47;19
Speaker 2
Rates starting at 2.49% for up.
00;40;47;19 - 00;40;49;06
Liv Moods
To 48 months, or.
00;40;49;06 - 00;40;51;05
Speaker 2
4.49% for up to.
00;40;51;05 - 00;40;52;14
Liv Moods
72 months.
00;40;52;20 - 00;40;53;23
Speaker 2
Luxury performance.
00;40;53;23 - 00;40;54;29
Liv Moods
And peace of mind.
00;40;54;29 - 00;40;56;27
Speaker 2
Discover your sanctuary only.
00;40;57;03 - 00;40;57;28
Liv Moods
At Landmark.
00;40;57;28 - 00;40;59;18
Speaker 2
Lincoln. That does it for another episode of.
00;40;59;18 - 00;41;02;11
Liv Moods
Mood Swings with Liv moods. I'm Liv mood signing off.
00;41;02;15 - 00;41;04;22
Speaker 2
For now until Friday. We'll see you Friday.
00;41;04;23 - 00;41;08;24
Liv Moods
Thanks for tuning in. Much love and go nuggets. Bye.